tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post2478748063253983182..comments2023-10-25T05:55:17.507-07:00Comments on TRUTH DON DIE.: MAY GOD NEVER GAMBLE ON OUR LIVES IN JESUS NAME. AMENAzazelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-12338268729512099492010-02-01T10:03:31.031-08:002010-02-01T10:03:31.031-08:00Good day, sun shines!
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if the baby died from a disease and the bibl...@ EDJ<br />if the baby died from a disease and the bible writers willfully lied about that. Then they outrightlyy lied. <br /><br />@ Enoch<br />I agree with you and EDJ u should check out Enoch's response to youAzazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-19422770068287452312009-09-23T07:04:27.829-07:002009-09-23T07:04:27.829-07:00@EDJ
Why then don't you take your theory of m...@EDJ<br /><br />Why then don't you take your theory of making stuff up in the Old Testament to its logical conclusion? This Christian God was entirely made up in the same way.<br /><br />After you consider that, you also have to admit that you can't treat these things in isolation because the New Testament references the Old repeatedly. You have to start questioning the New too.<br /><br />No one even knows for sure who wrote those NT books. We just have to take Papias' word for it. He was the Christian scholar who decided which apostle authored what book.<br /><br />You would think the apostles who worshiped Jesus would know when the object of their worship was born yet they all give different accounts of the time of his birth in detail with as much as a 24yr difference between Luke and John's accounts. They're stumbling over themselves to tell us things to believe about God in heaven yet they can't even get their story straight about their friend they walked the earth with.<br /><br />"But as Sacred said, neither science nor religion will ever have all the answers! " Those are the kind of statements I don't like. Speaking with certainty about what you can at best be uncertain of.Enochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01123477530241681915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-15030665516191766242009-09-23T05:19:55.506-07:002009-09-23T05:19:55.506-07:00@ Controversy
"I agree with Christians from t...@ Controversy<br />"I agree with Christians from time to time, so they should also from time to time repay the favor."<br /><br />Ode.<br /><br />You know I have always viewed much of the old testament as a way to explain things that happen from time to time. <br /><br />Like: Why do women have painful labor? Its not because another human being is compressing their abdominal and pelvic muscles (afterall how could the olden days ppl know that), its because Eve sinned and women are doomed to pain.<br /><br />Or, why do we have rainbows after rain? Its not because sunlight passing through the raindrops suspended in the clouds gets separated into the light spectrum, its because God wants to remind us of his promise to never drown us all again (even though we all come dangerously close with all these hurricanes, tsunamis, etc).<br /><br />As time goes by science gets answers to some of these problems (never all though) and the explanation of a God looking down on us all, gets a little less possible for many people. But as Sacred said, neither science nor religion will ever have all the answers! <br />(This is why I believe they can co-exist).<br /><br />Like the David argument, its quite possible that the child that was born had a terrible fatal and unknown disease and died because of that, then the bible writers decided it was because of David's sin that this happened. I see the merits of both ideas but there is very little way to prove either since we can't do an autopsy. Plus super Christians will just say that its God that sent the disease so he is still responsible.EDJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175893886334174182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-28768107291543842092009-09-23T01:14:29.644-07:002009-09-23T01:14:29.644-07:00Hahahahah @ God strikin me dead, that is a joke. W...Hahahahah @ God strikin me dead, that is a joke. Why would he strike me dead? Because I question that a book written by men and voted on by men could be from him? Surely, he would understand if I doubt that that is the case.<br />Haha i get joy when a christian agrees with me cus it's wonderful. I agree with christians from time to time, so they should also from time to time repay the favor. Honestly, Xavier the quran for example, i have not extensively read it hence I cannot critique it as effectively, and moreover my audience is predominantly christian. Hence u see my dilemma.Azazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-33936914008141923952009-09-23T00:31:12.647-07:002009-09-23T00:31:12.647-07:00U still don't get the point, do u? He never ch...U still don't get the point, do u? He never changed, rather we have a more gentle medium to access Him and that medium is Jesus Christ, whose new laws make up the christianity. No more do we have direct access to God, no more do we offer sacrifices nor burnt offerings, no more does He visit us with harsh punishments when we go astray...explains why u havent been struck dead though u ridicule Him. <br />Other religions have their own books which are not the bible, the bible is for christians and has totally different contents from other books (especially the new testament), so I want to see u challenge these other religions and their beliefs...or is their something about christianity that interests you? U once said u have great joy when a 'christian' agrees with you...u wld always feel that darkness until u believeXaviernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-31699789022589352432009-09-22T15:19:11.425-07:002009-09-22T15:19:11.425-07:00@ Xavier
All i understood from your post is that...@ Xavier <br />All i understood from your post is that your God is human and has a tendency to change as humans do. Or if u disagree with that, then your God is suffering from multiple personality disorder. He's vengeful in one stance and merciful in th other one. He should pick a personality and stick to it.<br /> @ why don't i pick on other religions, all of them are the same. They have bibles, and they all claim to speak to somebody above or they claim to know God's willAzazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-91771712646318367012009-09-22T14:45:03.363-07:002009-09-22T14:45:03.363-07:00The God I serve used to be a strict one, just like...The God I serve used to be a strict one, just like Nonny sed, He took life and wealth which He gave at will. He did not personally inflict hardship on Job, He allowed the devil do so(not like it makes so much difference).<br />He once asked Abraham to slay his son, Issac...remember that?<br />He even allowed elisha to kill hundreds of ball priests who could have repented, He hardened the heart of pharoah when he considered freeing the isrealites cos He wanted to teach the Egyptians a bitter lesson.<br />But what now happened when Jesus came? The old law got wiped away and things became anew. <br />If you want to talk about christianity which is all about Jesus, then concentrate on the 2nd testament.<br />And one more thing, I knw for sure that u are troubled because of ur lack of belief...u knw u shld believe, but u are lookin for a reason not to. Wonder why u rnt questioning other religions...<br />Give it up, u either believe or stop wailingXaviernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-87351381673482935652009-09-22T13:21:24.810-07:002009-09-22T13:21:24.810-07:00Lol exactly my point Otas.
Exactly my point lolLol exactly my point Otas.<br />Exactly my point lolAzazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-74290289002505907392009-09-22T11:22:07.489-07:002009-09-22T11:22:07.489-07:00Oh my this was soo good!
Eche u have to understan...Oh my this was soo good!<br /><br />Eche u have to understand that God has his reasoonss...*hiss*<br /><br />Pls case in point. God gave into temptation. He was soo sure that he would win he decided to risk everything! Apparently God needs to take his own advice and resist temptation. <br /><br />Props to Job tho for standing thru all that. Maybe one of his ten children clda learned something from him and been like that but we'll never know since God killed them all! Well technically God didnt kill them he just gave the devil permission to kill them. Who's to say he woint do the same to u!Otas (DUH!!)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-30878085104696751032009-09-22T11:14:29.866-07:002009-09-22T11:14:29.866-07:00I am sooo interested in blogging with ya'll!
...I am sooo interested in blogging with ya'll!<br /><br />p.s. lemme read dis den i'll leave a real commentOtas (DUH!)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-33338735135770993982009-09-22T10:06:15.445-07:002009-09-22T10:06:15.445-07:00Lol so God wanted to teach job, why kill job's...Lol so God wanted to teach job, why kill job's sons and daughters/servants? This is what is known as a very expensive lesson where u gamble with lives that have nothing to do with the person you are trying to teach. Untop of that, imagine the callousness of the writer @ the end to make it seem like everything is ok, God gave him back 10 more children, like that makes everything perfectly ok? Lmao. And u know that story is rubbish through and through.Azazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-16524998622346401692009-09-22T03:07:46.361-07:002009-09-22T03:07:46.361-07:00Hmm, this is a tough one. Notice how long it took ...Hmm, this is a tough one. Notice how long it took me to comment. I must confess i did read the post 4 times. Not because i don't get it. I mean, i grew up with the story of JOB. I read it because i actually began to question why God would gamble with the life of an innocent man<br /><br /><br /><br />First of all, The old testament was a time of sacrifices to ask for forgiveness, girls on their periods were considered impure. The law then was an eye for an eye. Cities used to get buried for disobeying or not worshiping God.<br /><br /><br /><br />God wanted to prove to satan that this follower was worthy. It was the old testament, before Christ, before his teachings of love. There was no other way. <br /><br /><br />Secondly, God wanted to teach JOB. This is what even fathers do to sons. The richest father who can afford to buy you a Lamborghini may make you work or leave you without some things to make you learn to strive and survive.<br /><br /><br /><br />God uses suffering to instruct and when you read through the passage, you see that JOB did learn and end up with tenfold of what he had before.<br /><br /><br /><br />Lastly, i want you to take the most important fact into consideration: this was the old testament. Christianity is based on Christ and his teachings. You cannot really judge Christianity based on the old testament.nonnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13038840241257720686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-9491602061761883572009-09-21T20:40:11.685-07:002009-09-21T20:40:11.685-07:00@ Enoch.
Lmao @ the gift that keeps on giving. It ...@ Enoch.<br />Lmao @ the gift that keeps on giving. It honestly is, and if ur arguin with a christian who tries to explain this away then u know say dat dem don brainwash dat person finish. Untop of the washing, them rinse the brain to.<br /><br />@ original mgbeke.<br />Lol i am honored lol. I am guessin u accept the story then?Azazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-17354275231861327282009-09-21T20:01:47.533-07:002009-09-21T20:01:47.533-07:00LOL. Job is the gift that keeps on giving. Its lik...LOL. Job is the gift that keeps on giving. Its like Christian Kryptonite. I use it as a thermonuclear weapon when I'm facing a hard nut to crack of a Christian. If I toss Job out there and the Christian embraces its radioactive message, I go just know say he/she don go far beyond redemption. Wonder what Moses was thinking when he Xeroxed it from Sumerian writings.<br /><br />EDJ, jiri nwayo. Don't invoke madness on anyone just yet.Enochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01123477530241681915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-72591520287114556602009-09-21T19:06:42.391-07:002009-09-21T19:06:42.391-07:00You have issues sha. lolYou have issues sha. lolOriginal Mgbekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409561613382179987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-41081597818195666052009-09-21T17:09:49.653-07:002009-09-21T17:09:49.653-07:00@ EDJ
I am tres honored o. Lol wow don't make ...@ EDJ<br />I am tres honored o. Lol wow don't make me blush o hahaha. But damn this is good. I have dreamt of such a day, where christians and deists can come together and seek common ground in our debate. Good stuff.<br /><br />@ Ms Dufa.<br />Is your speechlessness out of disappointment or out of shock?Azazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-21936558679700425162009-09-21T16:16:02.225-07:002009-09-21T16:16:02.225-07:00U left me speechlessU left me speechlessMs. 'dufahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08500315507490299815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-41911405732866240172009-09-21T16:10:53.755-07:002009-09-21T16:10:53.755-07:00Controversy, ala gbagbukwa gi ebe a. Don't I a...Controversy, ala gbagbukwa gi ebe a. Don't I agree with you sometimes? <br /><br />Anyway, I made you person of the week on my blog--despite your craziness.EDJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175893886334174182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-71947171397469449012009-09-21T15:48:54.802-07:002009-09-21T15:48:54.802-07:00Hahahhahahahahaha wow. I am proud of u EDJ, u agre...Hahahhahahahahaha wow. I am proud of u EDJ, u agreed with me for the first time. <br />Hahahah don't worry i shall tackle the story of adam and eve. Damn it brings joy to a deist heart when he is able to get a christian 2 agree with him. damn, i will sleep with a smile on my face tonight.Azazelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312052192443976075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-51322296812535955222009-09-21T15:46:04.268-07:002009-09-21T15:46:04.268-07:00Please does anyone have cliff notes on the sermon?...Please does anyone have cliff notes on the sermon? I can't read the whole thing.<br />(Don't you just hate when ppl comment only to say they never read the thing?)<br />I agree that I don't want the Lord to gamble with my life--thankfully I am stressed out enough as it is. Afterall, God usually only gambles with lives that are going very well. (e.g. Job)<br />If there is a threshold level of happiness to reach before I attract the notice of the Heavenly Gambling Commission--I sincerely hope I stay JUST below it until further notice.<br /><br />Why am I not on here supporting the bible in this case? Because this is one of those stories I never UNDERSTOOD! Also, the story of Adam & Eve has baffled me for a while, but that's for another time.EDJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175893886334174182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4147539673409649021.post-30020480632415959712009-09-21T15:43:35.935-07:002009-09-21T15:43:35.935-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.EDJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08175893886334174182noreply@blogger.com